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Unpopular opinions time!
I feel like I'm the only one not freaking out about Pretty. Odd. In either a positive or negative sense. I don't love it; I don't hate it. It certainly didn't make me want to cry. I'm irritated with their claims to aiming for a more stripped down, natural sound actually turning out to yield an album just as overproduced as the first, just with a lot of strings instead of synths. Some of the songs are lovely and pleasing - my favorite is Northern Downpour, and I love That Green Gentlemen, except for the word salad lyrics. I haven't listened to it enough to pick out other favorites (I've been out all day with the fam). I tend to agree with the critics on Folkin' Around - that is, I don't like it. The one that has the lyric "You remind me of my famous friends" just makes me facepalm.
I think it's a very pretentious album, and while sometimes that can be cute and adorable in interviews or whatever, in an entire album it's a little hard to swallow. It feels like they're tugging at our hands and going "Look! Look! I've been listening to new music! Aren't you PROUD?" It's entirely too derivative in places, and while I think there's a lot of talent backing it up (they do write some damn catchy melodies!) I really really want them to find their own sound. I guess I was hoping for an MCR-style sophomore effort. Three Cheers is 100% MCR for me, with many and various influences subtly and brilliantly interwoven into something that is entirely their own, greater than the sum of its parts.
They're still really young. They have a lot a lot of potential, and I am certainly not giving up on them. Hopefully this album will grow on me too, because hi, I paid 70 freaking dollars for the deluxe version (what was I thinking???). I still think they're preciouses, and I love Ryan singing (most of the time - he still makes me cringe a couple times here), and I will continute to giggle fondly over their shenanigans, but I've been sorta sensing this direction in my feelings for them for a while - sort of more "aw, how cute" than all emotionally involved, or declaring their music GEEENYUS! I do still think Brendon is ridiculously talented, and the way they've really become a band is wonderful, so I have high hopes for those kids. For kids they are, and kids they will not always be.
I think it's a very pretentious album, and while sometimes that can be cute and adorable in interviews or whatever, in an entire album it's a little hard to swallow. It feels like they're tugging at our hands and going "Look! Look! I've been listening to new music! Aren't you PROUD?" It's entirely too derivative in places, and while I think there's a lot of talent backing it up (they do write some damn catchy melodies!) I really really want them to find their own sound. I guess I was hoping for an MCR-style sophomore effort. Three Cheers is 100% MCR for me, with many and various influences subtly and brilliantly interwoven into something that is entirely their own, greater than the sum of its parts.
They're still really young. They have a lot a lot of potential, and I am certainly not giving up on them. Hopefully this album will grow on me too, because hi, I paid 70 freaking dollars for the deluxe version (what was I thinking???). I still think they're preciouses, and I love Ryan singing (most of the time - he still makes me cringe a couple times here), and I will continute to giggle fondly over their shenanigans, but I've been sorta sensing this direction in my feelings for them for a while - sort of more "aw, how cute" than all emotionally involved, or declaring their music GEEENYUS! I do still think Brendon is ridiculously talented, and the way they've really become a band is wonderful, so I have high hopes for those kids. For kids they are, and kids they will not always be.
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WORD WORD WORD.
WORD WORD.
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WORRRRRD.
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I am *incredibly* emotionally invested and weird about Panic. And I am *weird* about the depth of my love for Fever and I know that going in, so I have been trying to consciously make sure my reaction is not disproportionate or, you know, insane. I don't know. I think they are very talented, but I have also been afraid for awhile now Pretty.Odd. was going to come off as pretentious.
Anyway, sorry to dump all that when I haven't even heard the whole thing yet. I may be back after I have.
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Also, um. There was a $70 version of the album?! What, do you get a member of Panic delivered to your house with it or something?
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(Also every time Ryan sings I have to squee out loud because RYAN. SINGING. *cough*)
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And if you make the parallels between Pretty. Odd. and TBP, I think that there's a lot more to see- They're both trying to prove themselves, and they're going about doing so in ways that are very much true to the bands they are- Even on their second major release (Decaydance is an indie but the kind of distribution and promotion that they got for Fever was as enthusiastic as the promo for any first release by a baby band that I have ever seen, major or indie) Ryan is still, what, the same age that Mikeyway was when they started My Chem? They've got a lot of growing up to do, sure, but I don't necessarily think that comparing P.O. with Three Cheers is necessarily accurate, leaving off the question of whether or not it's fair.
(Full disclosure: I've heard the B-sides but I haven't downloaded the album yet, given that it's raining out and I'm getting roughly 4k/s download speeds right now. Hopefully I'll have it by tomorrow.)
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I'll agree that the album's overproduced, but that's an incredibly forgivable sin in my mind. I listen to Peter Gabriel religiously. You have not heard overproduced until you've gotten through his oeuvre, seriously.
The nonsensical lyrics work for me, for now, but it's possible that'll change. We'll see. I don't have lyrics right in front of me, and when I do, I expect my impressions of several songs to change. Mostly, I'm pleased that they're trying something new. If I'd gotten Fever 2.0, I'd've been annoyed.
I hate hate hate HATE the album version of "Behind the Sea", but I have the b-side version and have already passed it along to friends, fandom and non-fandom alike. It's no skin off my teeth to swap out my iTunes playlist.
I definitely agree with what
Personally I'm liking the album a lot so far, but as with the first album, I can easily see why others aren't. I think keeping an open mind in either direction's a good idea.
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I'm pretty much regretting downloading this. I only did because I've had a shit day and I wanted to be cheered up, and my excitement for this album has been stupid. And it didn't cheer me up.
From what I've read so far, I am the only person who isn't loving Northern Downpour. I'm decidedly unimpressed with that song. But bizarrely I do love Folkin Around (clearly I just have ludicrous taste in music). She Had The World is my favourite at the moment.
Don't get me started on the album version of Behind the Sea. It drowns Ryan out too much. Brendon's voice would work on that version, but Ryan's voice isn't that powerful and he's lost on it, which was why I love the alternate version. I managed about 30 seconds of the album version before having to skip. Plus the album version is missing the comedy "haoom" thing lmao.
I do think this album will grow on me after further listens, I think it's just the mood I'm in today. And like you say, they're wearing their influences too visibly on their sleeves, but they are young and stupidly talented (Brendon especially) so they have to time to work out who they really are. It feels to me like they've just tried too hard to distance themselves from Fever (which I loved on first listen apart from Lying).
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True, true. :/
I'm sorry you're so disappointed! I only listened to it once, because I actually want to wait until the album drops to really listen to it and pay attention to the lyrics and all. I liked Pas de Cheval and She's a handsome woman the best, I think. But it didn't make me flail or anything, like I would have expected. I'm more intrigued by the new Donots album, which was streamed today on their website, too, it'lll drop March 28th and they're my favorite german band. So maybe this Pretty. Odd. not being so great isn't too disappointing for me because I'm busy flailing about their new album? IDK. I definately was disappointed when everyone was flailing over NITA and the video for it, I didn't like it that much. SIGH.
Anyway, maybe the album will grow on you? Maybe we'll have to listen to it more often until we realize we like it? Or something. I don't know, I need sleep. Ha-
And also, I'd be so pissed if I payed 70 dollars for that deluxe version of the album. I'M SORRY YOU DID. *hugs*
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Overall I think it's a decent album that I'm happy to pay $14.99 for. It's a bunch of guys who have grown up a lot in a relatively short period of time and yeah, they're a little pretentious, but I still love them. :D
(B-sides? Where??)
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And the frustrating bit is that Nine in the Afternoon and its two B-side versions of Do You Know What I'm Seeing and Behind the Sea are really good.
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*facepalm*
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But man, that's just me. It makes me sad that we can't be excited about it together, and that you feel a little let down (*hug*) but I'm not trying to convince you. if I've learned anything, it's that music is one of those things that goes really, really deep and there's some kinds of music for people that just don't work. So yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with you, unfortunately, but like, I HOPE WE CAN STILL BE FRIENDS, OKAY? D: *CLINGS*
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yes. *sneaks away*