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I'm finally hoooooome. 12 hours in the car - so much fun. Not. :P

Anyway...

I was just thinking about Dean, and a comment made by Kripke in a recent article.

ETA: Warning for spoilers under the cut, up through 1x16: Shadow. Nothing HUGE, but it is there.


Here's what Kripke said: "In terms of Dean's evolution, Jensen is doing such an unbelievable job because this character started out very brash and Han Solo-like, still has that Devil-may-care attitude, but as the series goes on you're catching these careful, quiet glimpses of the absolutely screwed-to-Hell psyche that'd create a personality like that. That's what's been intriguing about Dean, the feelings of abandonment but also fierce loyalty he has for his father. Dean had an incredibly troubled childhood, and didn't adjust nearly as well to the outside world as Sam. And the more you flesh that out, the more fascinating he becomes. He's so damaged on the one hand and so charming on the other."
(Thanks to [livejournal.com profile] monkeydom for transcribing from the Dreamwatch article)

The part that grabs me is the screwed-to-Hell psyche. Dean is fucked up. He really, really is. So he's necessarily got to fall apart at some point, right? The thing is, I'm trying to think about what would trigger that, and how it would play out, and I'm having a hard time. Dean is always so firm and unshakeable, all devil-may-care, and it's really convincing. Of course we've seen moments of vulnerability - calling Papa in "Home," telling Sam he was right in "Scarecrow," worrying himself to death about Sam in "The Benders," and seeing Daddy (and then Daddy hug Sammy) in "Shadows." These have been brief but visible cracks in the cover that we've been privy to. But he can't keep up the facade of cocky ghost hunter forever. I think that the finale is going to involve Dean falling apart in some way.

But what's going to cause that? One might think it would be the defeat of the thing that killed Mary and Jessica. But if you think about it, that isn't really such an end-point for Dean. I was reading something [livejournal.com profile] poisontaster wrote about Dean, and she was talking about how the whole monster-killing thing is really a mission for Dean, a calling that he has a responsibility to answer. He has the means to save lots of people, and so he's going to. He doesn't have as direct a desire for revenge as Sam and John do - Sam was actually a bit right when he said, in their fight in "Scarecrow," that Dean doesn't understand Sam's burning desire for revenge. Of course Dean wants to kill the bastard that killed his mother, but at the same time it's just another monster. It will be an emotional experience for him, when they finally accomplish it, but not, I don't think, to the degree that it will be for Sam and John (Damn, I want to see that right now... augh, I can't wait for the finale!!!). I think that what sends Dean over the edge will probably be something to do with Sam, and/or John (though I'm rooting for Sam, clearly). Like, Sam's going to make the motions of leaving again, or something, orrrr Sam will get into some REALLY dire trouble. Something like that. And Dean will just break. Temporarily, of course, but I just think that he can't go on this way. He's going to have a breakdown at some point. I can't wait to see what Jensen does with that - he's so brilliant, and he could really make something like that deeply painful for the viewer, and I'm a sucker for that! Gosh.

Kay, I probably didn't say anything at all. But it is something I'm wondering about. Thoughts are appreciated!


Another thing... it's occurred to me that I've never actually *chatted* with many of you lovely people on my flist. I've made some really wonderful friends through LJ, but only after really talking to them outside of posts and comments. So I've decided to ask for some of your screen names. If you want to talk to me, just comment with your screen name (MSN is preferred, though I have AIM too). Or you can just IM me! Here's my info:

MSN: starlight1013@gmail.com
AIM: starsouls1013

Go at it :D

*skips off to fill extra 5 icon slots!*

Date: 2006-03-18 09:36 pm (UTC)
tabaqui: (Default)
From: [personal profile] tabaqui
OOh, yes. I think you're right. Something is going to break Dean apart into little bitty pieces. And he'll either lose it and come out swinging - go on some sort of killing spree - or he'll lose it and Sam'll have to talk him down from a total break. Coax him out of the corner, or some such.

I have this dreadful feeling they're going to kill off PapaW, and that will *kill* Dean, it really will.

I think his main emotional attachments are Papa and Sam and that's *it*, cute chicks in Missouri not withstanding.

And when he loses that one prop - the third leg of his tripod - he's going to go *down*.

I love that Kripke said Dean was fucked up and troubled. Makes his cocky, happy, geeky mostly-normal-guy thing so....thin.

You can just see the amoral, focused, and utterly ruthless being he really is, just under the surface.

Neat.

Uh, hi. I'm newly into SN and also sorta lurky at this point - clutching at the shelter of my BtVS blanky!
Heeee.

I'm on Yahoo - no clue if that even *works* for you, of if you'd want to chat up a total stranger, anyway.
:)
jynxx327

Date: 2006-03-19 05:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darkhavens.livejournal.com
Ha! I was all set to mention my misgivings about Papa when you got there first. Bah! I think that would be the most likely thing to break Dean, and I look forward to it and dread it with equal fervour.

I can't quite decide what's going to happen when Dean loses it. I can envision it being very loud and messy, but I can just as clearly imagine it being a barely heard 'snap' and seeing every emotion just fall right off Dean's face.

I also think that killing Papa might not be the end of him. After all, they got to see Mama again in Home, and who knows what tricks Sam is hiding in that head of his. Maybe Papa will be able to help them from beyond the grave (and thus keep up his sporadic guest appearances).

Date: 2006-03-19 07:15 am (UTC)
tabaqui: (s&dvisionbyliterati)
From: [personal profile] tabaqui
I can't totally decide, either. I have theories, but...
Yeah.

Oh, that would be neat - spiritual guidance!
But also - so damn hard.

*clings to the boys*
:)

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