Heh, it's the props department way of saying we shouldn't be looking that closely at the props;) Just like the logic is the writer's way of saying we should have something else to do for the rest of the week besides looking up town/location names/myths to rake them over the coals
Hee, excellent point. I knew I shouldn't start to pick at this show!
Hey, I think it was Mona that told me you're a graduate student in Biology? I'm doing a research internship this summer in a toxicology and pharmacology lab at Michigan State, and I just wanted to ask you... well, what it's like? What being in a graduate lab is like, and how undergrad interns are used (what kind of work they do, etc), and really anything you might know about the whole deal :) I'm kinda apprehensive about the whole thing!
What's it like...well, every lab is different. From what I read of the program you're going into, you should be set up to do a few things on a project w/ a grad student/technician, or they may have designed a small project for you to do on your own. And being an undergrad intern can be absolutely fantastic if you're given someone whose knowledgeable and capable of training you, or it can be really really boring where you're just told to go do something and there's very few people in the lab that can tell you why. I had the former experience but I saw several people in the intern program I was in have the latter. I would say that if you have a problem that it's the latter, try to talk to the boss and explain you aren't getting what you want out of it (assuming the boss is worth anything). From what you said of the guy you were working w/ contacting you and all, i'd say you have a very good chance to have a very good experience.
As to what a grad lab is like...ummm, it's hard to say..again lots of variation. I guess I'd need a more specific to know what to say. Feel free to tag me on yahell to quiz me up on it etc. :)
Hmmm, I do hope it turns out well! Thank you so much for the insight, it's kind of cleared the fog a little bit - it's all so abstract to me as of now. I will definitely keep you in mind if I have more questions, especially once I get there :)
It does seem most likely that they broke the prop and hoped we wouldn't notice, lol.
*blinks* And now, looking at the other gun, the fake one, it looks like it only has a trigger guard and no trigger o.O That is so weird! Maybe it's to make the guns unfireable, or something?
if you look at the screencap you can see that dean isn't holding the colt from 120. neither of them has the embroidery-stuff (or is it just on one side and/or i'm getting something totally wrong?). I'm so confused. my guess would be they took two unfireable props for this shot, thinking nobody would look too close? I know that Americans are pretty strict when it comes to safety and props being labeled as such and so on. So my guess would be since they look pretty real they (had to?) removed the triggers to make sure they are props and couldn't be fired. Might be legal issues? I dunnoe, really.
(good point... but they're filming in Canada, yo, your rules might not apply :P although, being canadian, i'm not sure about our prop laws myself XD a lot of our laws aren't as strict. but then again we're probably more strict about guns than we are about other weapons, given that we have gun control here, i dunno. (and also shit like nunchukas and throwing stars and butterfly knives and switchblades, which are all illegal here but aparently not over there :P) but then again, i don't know how on earth they decide when those prop-weaponry rules apply and when they don't; when i watched Spiderman 2 i was totally WTF at this one scene because the dagger Harry grabs in his dad's house and gets pretty close to Peter's face with was the EXACT SAME CHEAP FANTASY REPLICA DAGGER i bought *2 years earlier* at a fantasy convention - and the blade was not replaced, it had the same weird starting-an-inch-up shaped cut - it is a cheap weapon, probably worth about 20$ US, but defenitely not a prop *blade* - you could still totally cut meat with the thing, or successfully stab yourself in the heart and bleed to death (albeit with slightly more pain than a high quality blade ;p), i'm sure. so that kinda weirded me out :P)
buuut.. yeah. this is defenitely interesting, this gun thing. :P
Ok, I have no idea how I got here (friend of a friend? Or something) but I just gotta put my two cents in. Sorry! *sheepish smile*
First, the fake gun does have a trigger, only it's very close to the guard so you don't see it in the cap (it's visible when you watch the ep again, though). On the real gun, the embroidery is faded but it's there (again, you see it in the ep) as are the words ('non timebo mala').
As for the trigger-- interesting thing, in "Dead Man's Blood" it exists in the 'Colt making the gun' scenes, but not in the 'present time' scenes. Without it being a prop mistake, there are two possible explanations (both a bit weak, but still):
1. I read somewhere that the fastest gunslingers in the Old West had guns with no triggers. They'd just cock the whatchamacallit thingy and released it. It's possible one of the previous owners removed it. (Btw, were there any previous owners? I'm not sure..) Though if that's true, the way John and Sam fired the gun isn't quite right. I think.
2. The trigger is there but so small we can't see it in the caps. It was broken and/or replaced. (And this is me grasping at straws. :D)
That's all I got. *shrugs* (Oh, and um, sorry for barging in like this on your LJ! *cringe* I'm usually not rude like this, I swear! And I'm Zo, btw. Nice to meet you. :))
You're not rude! I asked a question, I like answers from any quarter :D Hi Zo, I'm Anne!
That's crazy about the no triggers thing. I was thinking something like that, but... yeah. I get the feeling this is all just a silly SPN prop thing, but it's fun to try to pick things apart ^_^ Thanks for the input! :D
*shakes hand* Glad I could be of help. Or, um, just ramble at you. :D And yeah, it's probably a prop thing. I think they really didn't expect us fans to be so obsessedstalkerish observant. :D
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Date: 2006-04-29 09:45 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-04-29 12:17 pm (UTC)That's reeeeeeally confusing. Duh. But somehow I think it's just a veeeery silly mistake. :)
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Date: 2006-04-29 01:16 pm (UTC)*grins*
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Date: 2006-04-29 04:22 pm (UTC)Hey, I think it was Mona that told me you're a graduate student in Biology? I'm doing a research internship this summer in a toxicology and pharmacology lab at Michigan State, and I just wanted to ask you... well, what it's like? What being in a graduate lab is like, and how undergrad interns are used (what kind of work they do, etc), and really anything you might know about the whole deal :) I'm kinda apprehensive about the whole thing!
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Date: 2006-04-30 12:44 am (UTC)What's it like...well, every lab is different. From what I read of the program you're going into, you should be set up to do a few things on a project w/ a grad student/technician, or they may have designed a small project for you to do on your own. And being an undergrad intern can be absolutely fantastic if you're given someone whose knowledgeable and capable of training you, or it can be really really boring where you're just told to go do something and there's very few people in the lab that can tell you why. I had the former experience but I saw several people in the intern program I was in have the latter. I would say that if you have a problem that it's the latter, try to talk to the boss and explain you aren't getting what you want out of it (assuming the boss is worth anything). From what you said of the guy you were working w/ contacting you and all, i'd say you have a very good chance to have a very good experience.
As to what a grad lab is like...ummm, it's hard to say..again lots of variation. I guess I'd need a more specific to know what to say. Feel free to tag me on yahell to quiz me up on it etc. :)
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Date: 2006-04-30 02:46 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-04-29 04:00 pm (UTC)Here is the gun, from DMB, during the flashbacks of when it was made.
It doesn't have a trigger guard but the trigger *was* there...at least at one point.
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Date: 2006-04-29 04:20 pm (UTC)*blinks* And now, looking at the other gun, the fake one, it looks like it only has a trigger guard and no trigger o.O That is so weird! Maybe it's to make the guns unfireable, or something?
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Date: 2006-04-29 06:32 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-04-30 06:16 am (UTC)buuut.. yeah. this is defenitely interesting, this gun thing. :P
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Date: 2006-04-29 10:08 pm (UTC)First, the fake gun does have a trigger, only it's very close to the guard so you don't see it in the cap (it's visible when you watch the ep again, though). On the real gun, the embroidery is faded but it's there (again, you see it in the ep) as are the words ('non timebo mala').
As for the trigger-- interesting thing, in "Dead Man's Blood" it exists in the 'Colt making the gun' scenes, but not in the 'present time' scenes. Without it being a prop mistake, there are two possible explanations (both a bit weak, but still):
1. I read somewhere that the fastest gunslingers in the Old West had guns with no triggers. They'd just cock the whatchamacallit thingy and released it. It's possible one of the previous owners removed it. (Btw, were there any previous owners? I'm not sure..) Though if that's true, the way John and Sam fired the gun isn't quite right. I think.
2. The trigger is there but so small we can't see it in the caps. It was broken and/or replaced. (And this is me grasping at straws. :D)
That's all I got. *shrugs* (Oh, and um, sorry for barging in like this on your LJ! *cringe* I'm usually not rude like this, I swear! And I'm Zo, btw. Nice to meet you. :))
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Date: 2006-04-29 10:12 pm (UTC)That's crazy about the no triggers thing. I was thinking something like that, but... yeah. I get the feeling this is all just a silly SPN prop thing, but it's fun to try to pick things apart ^_^ Thanks for the input! :D
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Date: 2006-04-29 10:18 pm (UTC)obsessedstalkerishobservant. :Dno subject
Date: 2006-05-01 03:35 pm (UTC)