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exsequarI love Sam and Dean. Period. I know I'm not by any means alone in that, but this is more a 'thoughts are bubbling around in my head and I'm bored while waiting for this rat artery to equilibrate so I'm going to get some of them down in my LJ' kind of post, more than an 'omg REVELATION' post, so. Sam and Dean. And their "us against the world" dynamic. JUST Sam and Dean, you understand, not Sam and Dean and John. Because while yes the last three episodes were intense and awesome, they were missing something inherent about the rest of the season that I loved so very much - SamandDean. It's why I watch. To see their undivided attention given to each other, the acres and acres of LOVE that is just so obvious. The Wincest dimension is almost irrelevant - I just want to watch them, as brothers, take on the supernatural.
But that really can't continue. For the sake of the show in the sense that it's a TV program, keeping it to the same two characters would not keep anyone involved in the *making* of it happy; it leaves no avenue for new actors, it keeps Jen and Jared worked to the BONE, and it severely limits storylines. So, I understand, intellectually, that new people have to be added to the mix, that the show has to go somewhere beyond "two guys in a car".
But I don't WANT it to. I'm being stubborn and irrational but I want my SamandDean Show, godammit. I realize that I might like whoever they bring in (god I hope they cast well if there's a girl added - some girls just make me want to yank my HAIR out. On the other hand, some make me want to snog them breathless - see Faith, Kara, Scully, Hermione, River. So it's not like I hate female characters, obviously. I just haven't been tickled by anyone they've had on SPN so far, except Jess and kind of Sarah) but it still won't be the SAME. Especially without the Impala! I really am so worried about that, because the Impala is a HUGE part of the atmosphere and attitude of the show (the sound of those doors creaking open and slamming shut, the engine rumbling to life - orgasmic, seriously) and I can't imagine what other car they're going to drive now, and how that will affect the show.
*sighs* I'm worried, guys. I want NOTHING more than a show that I fall in love with first season and follow for many years. I would have sold a kidney to be born earlier and do that with Buffy, follow it as it aired. Because I've never (!) gotten to do that! The closest I've come is Lost, and I've all but completely lost (har) interest in that show. So I'm hoping that Supernatural is it, that these boys continue to own my heart for years to come. I'm just scared that they're not.
Hold me?
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Date: 2006-06-20 06:41 pm (UTC)I'm sure you're old enough to have done that with buffy...not fandomwise, but follow it and fangirl it and such. No?
(also, think we've talked about this before)
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Date: 2006-06-20 06:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 06:55 pm (UTC)It was pre-internet fangirling, but I'd say it was hardcore fangirling all the same. As in, quoting lines between me and a friend, picking names, keeping scrap books and well, lets not get into it all, it is sordid and dirty. Writing fanfic in ntoebooks before I knew what fanfic was
And then s3/4 I got the internet and oh my god it was fun, fic, crossovers, discussions, trivia contests between fans, trying to figure out what was going to happen next. Coutning down to boxsets.
But yeah, I can barely remember a time I didn't know what buffy was. Standing in a school playground instead of playing tag talking about buffy with the other Sarah. (there were two of us and we both liked buffy).
But maybe you mean a different type of fangirling?
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Date: 2006-06-20 06:57 pm (UTC)I wish I had been aware of Buffy when it was airing.
Cmon sas, you know not to interpret what i say so rigidly :P
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Date: 2006-06-20 07:02 pm (UTC)Anyway, how are you?
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Date: 2006-06-20 07:06 pm (UTC)*sigh*
*uses pretty new Dean and Lucas icon*
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Date: 2006-06-20 07:11 pm (UTC)Also? that sucks, but...quiet can be good...
sometimes.
did you see my pics of my room? it's all clean!
(yes, I'm about as bored as you may or may not be)
http://pics.livejournal.com/theaeblackthorn/gallery/0000fz13
*off to look for food*
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Date: 2006-06-20 06:41 pm (UTC)Dammit.
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Date: 2006-06-20 06:42 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 06:43 pm (UTC)See, the way I see it is that the first season wasn't exactly the epitome of quality. I'm in it for the pretty and the porn, and girls can be pretty too. *g*
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Date: 2006-06-20 06:47 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 06:49 pm (UTC)With me, it's just--well. The show needs some supporting characters. It was falling into a pattern: car, baddie, exposition, woobie!Dean, car, credits. So a new character might be a good thing. :)
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Date: 2006-06-20 06:45 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 06:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 06:41 pm (UTC)ps. That icon is beautiful.
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Date: 2006-06-20 06:46 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 06:51 pm (UTC)Personally I think they should wait until I'm an actress and cast me ;P hahaha.
But yeah, I was an idiot and read the spoilers for S2 (I'm assuming you haven't but I wouldn't say anything anyway) and it really freaked me out, not because of what I actually read but just because it brought it home that, things are going to change and it's probably going to hurt like a bitch. I guess we just have to put our faith in Kripke and hope he comes through.
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Date: 2006-06-20 06:56 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 07:06 pm (UTC)But yeah, I am really really scared about S2. I'm so ridiculously emotionally invested (does that make sense..?) in this show, it just, yeah. OW.
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Date: 2006-06-20 07:15 pm (UTC)I really, really hope the second season doesn't suck. Sophomore slump is a real possibility. I want to be able to SQUEE MY BRAINS OUT at Winchester Con. *crosses fingers*
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Date: 2006-06-20 07:16 pm (UTC)Take Dawson's Creek. It starts out with these four main characters, and then it expands season after season until you've got this amazing ensemble cast and (gasp!) some of the characters they've added you like even MORE than the original ones. Same with the OC. I love Taylor Townsend more than LIFE, for serious.
Here's what I'd like to see happen on SPN. I'd like them to resolve the John part of the demon plotline, if not the entire demon plot, because JDM has a new show and he won't be around the whole season. Then I'd like them to expand the whole demon idea, get the boys set up with a really big overarching plot, something along the lines of the powers that be, being chosen for the goodies, Sam developing his powers, that sort of thing. The big bad should have a motivation. Probably sucking the world into hell per usual, but possibly just recruiting for the dark side on behalf of an even BIGGER big bad.
And yes, they need to expand the cast. Not necessarily romantic interests, although there should be some of that and more than just girl of the week stuff. Actual characters, maybe other hunters, or other psychics, John's old buddies, whatever. I'd like to see Bobby stick around, I liked him.
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Date: 2006-06-20 07:26 pm (UTC)As another example close to my heart, Buffy. That one had a lot more core character changes, but the heart was still there to the end. I don't doubt that will happen in SPN - obviously they won't kill either Sam or Dean - but it DOES mess with things. I'm not ashamed to say that I'm scared of change. It's probably a bad thing, and I should try to get over it, but there it is.
Now if they were to cast Eliza Dushku as a girlfriend to one of the boys, I'd be totally on board with that.... :)
What you lay out does seem cool though. I think there are a lot of directions it could go that I would find engaging and fascinating. It's just that I'm not sure whether Kripke and Co will take one of them or not.
I liked Bobby too :)
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Date: 2006-06-20 07:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 07:54 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 08:16 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-20 08:18 pm (UTC)Now if they were to cast Eliza Dushku as a girlfriend to one of the boys, I'd be totally on board with that.... :)
OMFG PLEASE PLEASE YES GOD MORE DO IT HARDER!!! *flails*
*essplodes*
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Date: 2006-06-20 08:26 pm (UTC)Hey you know what? YOU'RE THE ONE THAT WRITES HOTASFUCK FAITH/WINCHESTERS PORN. What are you waiting for, beeyotch?? Moooooore! *bribes, cajoles, begs, coaxes, threatens*
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Pretty please? :D
(I am mostly kidding, for you are writing other marvelous fic-type-things and I love whatever you write, you know that. Maybe I should write some.....)
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Date: 2006-06-20 09:55 pm (UTC)I didn't need THAT in my head.
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Date: 2006-06-21 12:52 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-21 07:36 pm (UTC)And that icon kills me ded.
Dean and Faith... the snark would be deadly all by itself. I have to say,though, could Sammy actually HANDLE Faith??
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Date: 2006-06-21 07:44 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-21 08:36 pm (UTC)And as for mona, well, I already worship at her altar :::points to icon as she toddles off to read:::
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Date: 2006-06-21 08:37 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-21 12:55 am (UTC)Also I do agree with the whole SamandDean dynamic. I think people generally like John but I haven't really warmed to him much. I think the only part I liked was the John and Sam convo in Dead Man's Blood. And I really miss there being just SamandDean in the ep. I'm not sure about a girl character either because none of them have been particularly good. On the other hand, as much as you don't want a show to change, shows do change and sometimes that isn't bad. Look at Joss Whedon shows where they just went to a whole other level in the second season, it's amazing.
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Date: 2006-06-21 02:07 am (UTC)But you know, Kripke could surprise us.
Just from what I've heard before, I'm assuming they're getting another character added just because it's just WAY too draining for Jared and Jensen.
But I know what you mean. I want more of them and something felt off when John was there, even though I love JDM.
I think what I'd like to see is more flashbacks to how they were in dealing with no mother. I suppose that's fanfic fodder, but I am curious. :)
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Date: 2006-06-21 02:07 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-06-21 10:32 am (UTC)Are they?
ARE THEY?
*panics*
Hold me, Anne. It isn't so beautiful.
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Date: 2006-06-21 12:51 pm (UTC)Blah, I don't even want to think about this anymore. I'm gonna bury myself in the first season by working on my music vid *nod nod*
Last night I watched the end of Devil's Trap again (*whimpers*) and I had to cut it off before The Semi. I just can't watch it. It HURTS. And I know they're gonna replay it at the beginning of S2 and augh *hides face*