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Oct. 24th, 2005 04:25 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
I'm trying to be amused about this, but it's really quite difficult. Graphics crediting is something I take quite seriously, so naturally when I saw someone using my icon in a comment at
ewanphoria, I checked if she had credited me, and lo and behold she had not. In addition, she was using 100 icons, many of which I recognized, and she had not credited ONE. So this is what I said to her:
"Hi, I made the icon you're using and I noticed that you didn't credit me. I also looked at the rest of your icons and I'm pretty damn sure you didn't make all those yourself. crediting is just the right thing to do. So I must insist that you credit me in the keywords, and I'd also strongly recommend that you either find out who made all those other icons or take them down."
I thought that would solve the problem. I should have known better, since she seems to be dead set against crediting of any kind. This is the response I got back:
"First of all, my friends sent me most of these icons through aim or saved them themselves and sent them to me, I didnt find all these myself and purposly stole them. Second of all, if you're going to put your work on the internet, you have to be prepared to have work stolen and not credited. If you can't stand it, then you shouldnt put them up for public use."
What???? People who make art should expect it to be stolen?? That's a load of bullshit. So I said this to her:
"When I clearly state on all of my icon posts that credit is required, I do not believe that I have to be "prepared" for my work (my WORK) to be stolen. Stolen being the key word here. Are you defending what your friends did? When I share cool icons with my friends, I tell them who made it so they can credit. It's very easy, and simply the correct thing to do. Also, you can't just drop all the blame on your friends, because it should have been your place to ask them where they found the icons, and if they didn't know, then you should just not use them. It's very easy to go to icon communities and find many good icons to use.
In addition, I never said I can't stand it. It's not like I'm pitching a hissy fit or having a nervous break down. I simply politely asked you to credit me, and then suggested that you try to find out who made the icons you're using. I happen to know that a lot of those were made by prominent, talented icon makers who deserve to be credited. It's really not that hard on your part, and there was no need to turn around and attack me."
Then I went to see if she had credited me after all. Guess what? SHE HADN'T. So I made this additional reply:
"Oh and by the way, I had assumed that despite your excuses you would have had the decency to credit me when I directly asked you, but now I see that you haven't. Do you have some moral objection to crediting? It's really not that difficult. Either take down my icon or attach my name to it, please. Thank you."
Her responses, respectively, were:
"There is nothing polite about your posts whatsoever. Polite would be, "I made that icon, and would appreciate if you would credit me, thanks!" and it would have been no problem"
and
"I was actually just looking for your name through my friends list because I just deleted the email, and I didnt find the icon myself, but continue to be a rude ass and I wont credit. Manners do go a long way."
b.i.t.c.h.
There's a little more of it, but I'm actually trembling with rage so I'm not going to post it. This person is
katowns, feel free to lynch her. Or go check out her icons and see how many of YOURS she has stolen.
Oh look! Now I've got two pretty boys with GUNS trained at her head. Me likey.
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"Hi, I made the icon you're using and I noticed that you didn't credit me. I also looked at the rest of your icons and I'm pretty damn sure you didn't make all those yourself. crediting is just the right thing to do. So I must insist that you credit me in the keywords, and I'd also strongly recommend that you either find out who made all those other icons or take them down."
I thought that would solve the problem. I should have known better, since she seems to be dead set against crediting of any kind. This is the response I got back:
"First of all, my friends sent me most of these icons through aim or saved them themselves and sent them to me, I didnt find all these myself and purposly stole them. Second of all, if you're going to put your work on the internet, you have to be prepared to have work stolen and not credited. If you can't stand it, then you shouldnt put them up for public use."
What???? People who make art should expect it to be stolen?? That's a load of bullshit. So I said this to her:
"When I clearly state on all of my icon posts that credit is required, I do not believe that I have to be "prepared" for my work (my WORK) to be stolen. Stolen being the key word here. Are you defending what your friends did? When I share cool icons with my friends, I tell them who made it so they can credit. It's very easy, and simply the correct thing to do. Also, you can't just drop all the blame on your friends, because it should have been your place to ask them where they found the icons, and if they didn't know, then you should just not use them. It's very easy to go to icon communities and find many good icons to use.
In addition, I never said I can't stand it. It's not like I'm pitching a hissy fit or having a nervous break down. I simply politely asked you to credit me, and then suggested that you try to find out who made the icons you're using. I happen to know that a lot of those were made by prominent, talented icon makers who deserve to be credited. It's really not that hard on your part, and there was no need to turn around and attack me."
Then I went to see if she had credited me after all. Guess what? SHE HADN'T. So I made this additional reply:
"Oh and by the way, I had assumed that despite your excuses you would have had the decency to credit me when I directly asked you, but now I see that you haven't. Do you have some moral objection to crediting? It's really not that difficult. Either take down my icon or attach my name to it, please. Thank you."
Her responses, respectively, were:
"There is nothing polite about your posts whatsoever. Polite would be, "I made that icon, and would appreciate if you would credit me, thanks!" and it would have been no problem"
and
"I was actually just looking for your name through my friends list because I just deleted the email, and I didnt find the icon myself, but continue to be a rude ass and I wont credit. Manners do go a long way."
b.i.t.c.h.
There's a little more of it, but I'm actually trembling with rage so I'm not going to post it. This person is
![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
Oh look! Now I've got two pretty boys with GUNS trained at her head. Me likey.
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Date: 2005-10-24 10:08 pm (UTC)