Yes we REALLY can! Wow!
Oct. 15th, 2008 10:58 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Before I go bury myself in blogs and polls...
why yes, Barack Obama, I would be honored to have you serve as my president.
He was so eloquent and moving and powerful and clear for the whole debate. McCain made some solid points, and sometimes his tone was improved over past encounters, but for the most part he was smug, condescending, and outright RUDE (interrupting Obama at the end of practically every answer? bastard) and just generally unpleasant. Sure he landed a couple single-line zingers, but 1) they were usually lies, and 2) the atmosphere right now doesn't CARE about zingers. People actually care about the (gasp!) issues! They care that Obama's plan is going to let them keep their healthcare but lower premiums, or provide them with healthcare that they don't have right now. They see right through McCain touting Palin's experience with disabled children through the example of autism (newsflash: Palin's child has Down's syndrome. They are NOT the same thing.) and they FEEL Obama's assertions of solidarity and support for the common American.
Obama is just such a wonderful speaker, and I know that he feels what he is speaking. Sometimes when McCain floundered through an answer I couldn't for the life of me figure out what he was even trying to say. Obama is always clear and articulate. I thought Obama very effectively countered most of McCain's very blatant lies and twistings of Obama's record or positions. Anyone paying attention is not sold on McCain's crap. And the amazing thing is that most people ARE paying attention!
There was a wonderful woman on CNN right after the debate. She was undecided before the debate, and spoke very eloquently about how she decided to involve herself in politics because she can't be an example to her children if she doesn't. She had a charming southern twang and was very firmly convinced by Obama. I really loved her, and I think she represents a lot of people right now.
In conclusion: YAY. *runs off to read blogs*
why yes, Barack Obama, I would be honored to have you serve as my president.
He was so eloquent and moving and powerful and clear for the whole debate. McCain made some solid points, and sometimes his tone was improved over past encounters, but for the most part he was smug, condescending, and outright RUDE (interrupting Obama at the end of practically every answer? bastard) and just generally unpleasant. Sure he landed a couple single-line zingers, but 1) they were usually lies, and 2) the atmosphere right now doesn't CARE about zingers. People actually care about the (gasp!) issues! They care that Obama's plan is going to let them keep their healthcare but lower premiums, or provide them with healthcare that they don't have right now. They see right through McCain touting Palin's experience with disabled children through the example of autism (newsflash: Palin's child has Down's syndrome. They are NOT the same thing.) and they FEEL Obama's assertions of solidarity and support for the common American.
Obama is just such a wonderful speaker, and I know that he feels what he is speaking. Sometimes when McCain floundered through an answer I couldn't for the life of me figure out what he was even trying to say. Obama is always clear and articulate. I thought Obama very effectively countered most of McCain's very blatant lies and twistings of Obama's record or positions. Anyone paying attention is not sold on McCain's crap. And the amazing thing is that most people ARE paying attention!
There was a wonderful woman on CNN right after the debate. She was undecided before the debate, and spoke very eloquently about how she decided to involve herself in politics because she can't be an example to her children if she doesn't. She had a charming southern twang and was very firmly convinced by Obama. I really loved her, and I think she represents a lot of people right now.
In conclusion: YAY. *runs off to read blogs*
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Date: 2008-10-16 03:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-16 03:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-16 03:50 am (UTC)BUT DON'T YOU KNOW BEING ELOQUENT IS THE WORSTEST THING EVER!? MCCAIN THINKS WE SHOULD ALL BE BUMBLING IDIOTS (SEE SARAH PALIN).
But seriously, a huge YES to this post. \o/
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Date: 2008-10-16 05:33 am (UTC)Oops!
;)
(LOOK AT THE PRECIOUS OBAMAS omg. <3333)
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Date: 2008-10-16 03:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-16 05:32 am (UTC)All the polls are tossing it to Obama handily, as I expected! Yay.
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Date: 2008-10-16 05:23 am (UTC)Actually, I think it is much closer than most national polls suggest (although I hope it isn't). Basically, like 2000, I think it will all come down to Florida. *shakes fist at Florida* I can't wait until November 4th and neither can my waist line, haha.
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Date: 2008-10-16 05:31 am (UTC)as their personal savioras a person they'd be comfortable having as President. My friend Thomas, the staunchest Republican I know, admits that he hates McCain, even though he hates Obama more. If that's true for him, think of the millions who are worried about their own pockets. This momentum is more than real, it is staggering, and I think it will manifest on election day as a massive, at least 300 EV and probably more like 330-350 EV victory for Obama.So, uh, rebuttal? Haha.
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Date: 2008-10-16 06:01 am (UTC)So, the states. I remain unconvinced that VA, OH, CO or NV will vote blue. I will be Thrilled to be wrong. But, they are red states traditionally. I know VA is tracking quite blue at the moment but I still won't believe it until the votes are counted.
I am fairly certain that battlegrounders IA, PA, NM, MI & NH will be blue. (Actually, I've been laughing at McCain campaigning in recent days in IA & NH when he could gain so much more in CO, NV, OH &/or VA.)
So, that leaves FL as critical. FL can redeem itself after the 2000 debacle. Voter suppression in FL is a reality, especially since the state is run by Republicans. But, Obama's ground campaign is strong, there are lots of young and minority voters there and it deserves a chance at redemption. So, GO FL!
Now, don't get me wrong - a huge EV victory would make me happy, thrilled, exultant. I just think that sending out a message of an expected 330+ EV count is premature and might work against getting voters to the polls.
Remember - I've been voting since 1980 & only experienced TWO presidential voting victories, both Clinton. I know too much about dashed hopes & sucky presidential winners. In 2000, I could barely breathe through it all. In 2004, this country re-elected W who can barely construct a sentence & had already proved himself as an utter disaster as a president. So, I take nothing for granted until the concession speech.
Last Friday on Bill Maher, the comic, Dana Gould, said he wouldn't believe Obama won until the third year of his first term. I so understood that sentiment!
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Date: 2008-10-16 06:19 am (UTC)But I do think there is change in the air. I think that we are at an unprecedented turning point in our history. The national approval rating for our government is at a record low. A record low! That has to mean something. The entire dialogue has been changed, and a striking majority want something different and yet reliable. Obama has resoundingly showed that he is that figure in all three of the debates, and public opinion is reflecting that.
A couple months ago, pundits were yammering about how Obama needs a 10 point national lead and over 50% of the popular vote. Well, guess what? They thought that was impossible, yet here we are, with still three weeks to go and his momentum, while slowing somewhat, certainly not reversed. (He's going to necessarily hit a ceiling, obviously, but he hasn't yet! The "undecideds" went for Obama by over 50% in this debate. I think he will tick even higher in the polls.) I simply do not see how a number like +7 in Virginia can be false. A sometimes argument - the Bradley Effect. You, as a 538 devotee, know this does not exist anymore. It simply doesn't.
As for voter turnout, I have faith that turnout is going to be great if not FANTASTIC. Record breaking, even, when it comes to young and black voters. The ground game and the passion that it represents simply cannot be discounted. There will be voter pressure and fraud from the GOP, sure, but for once the Democrats have a robust and committed network in place that will specifically focus on counteracting that effect. They will work their asses off to get people to the polls on that day, and more to the point, people WANT to get to the polls. I don't think enough people are going to succumb to a "landslide" narrative and stay at home - the advantage Obama has is simply too great.
I think you are sadly used to living in a red nation. Being a Democrat has been a disheartening and jading experience, from all that I can discern, for the past decades. But we are on the cusp of something different. Democrats have registered new voters in droves; Republicans who are actually willing to listen are hearing Obama's narrative and responding to it. Our nation is fundamentally different from what it was in 2004. And Obama is a figure that we can rally around - Kerry was not.
The winds of change are blowing. I simply am unconvinced by arguments to the contrary. I understand being worried, and I will be at risk of high blood pressure right up until election day. But when he wins - it will the best vindication of all time.
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Date: 2008-10-16 06:39 am (UTC)Yet -
First off, the Bradly effect is real. I voted in that gubenatorial election. I was SHOCKED. (I was about your age then) Everyone was SHOCKED. Bradley was a terrific man & great candidate. Even two decades later, do I think people will lie about whom they are voting for in a poll? Yes, I do. Now, I grant you that the polling is much much more sophisticated now. For voters under 35, race is a much less significant issue. For voters over 35 & especially over 50, it is an issue. I know people who I can not dissuade from the position that Obama is a Muslim and I live in the most liberal area of the nation. (Whenever the neocons want to scare people, they say "San Francisco", as if it is full of demons or something)
Our nation is fundamentally different from what it was in 2004.
No, it really isn't. The economy, which has been teetering for 18 months, collapsed, quite violently. If it weren't for that & McCain's epic fail at handling it, the polls would be 2 points apart. People are scared & willing to vote for something different because they realize the dire straits we are in.
Bottom line - Obama is a honest & decent man. I know he wants to do the right thing for us as a nation & as a world power. He has run a brilliant campaign. I believe he will find a way to get 270+ EVs on Nov 4.
And I hope it will be a landslide & voter mandate. If it is, there will be much drinking of sparkling wine at my casa that evening.
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Date: 2008-10-16 06:25 am (UTC)Basically, it's possible that his victory might be narrow, but that's only at the very minimum of what's going for him right now. I just can't see the polls failing that spectacularly.
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Date: 2008-10-16 06:48 am (UTC)CO, OH, VA - I'm unconvinced any of them are going blue. CO is only a few points apart depending on the poll, ditto on OH which has fluctuated up down left right, etc. VA's polls are most blue but until it is declared as an Obama winner, I just don't believe it. I know VA has dem governor & dem senator so I should believe but race is a factor in VA.
Of those three, I see CO as perhaps most potential blue-ish because of its environmental record & young population.
If they all go blue, - much sparkling wine at my casa!
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Date: 2008-10-16 05:34 am (UTC)ANYWAY! Point of my comment is, do you have any particular political blogs that you think should TOTALLY be read? I'd love to see a few, but ah, there are so many, this girlie wouldn't know where to begin!
& I TOTALLY agree about Obama being a clear & very articulate sort of speaker - it extends to his books too. in The Audacity of Hope, which I LOVED, he wrote about political things & stuff I usually don't understand PERIOD in a way that I totally got it after a couple of read-throughs & I actually felt like I understood it better.
Seriously. Your whole post had me going \O/ \O/ \O/ \O/ LIKE WHOA. :D
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Date: 2008-10-16 05:37 am (UTC)YAY Obama! I really really want to pick up one of his books, I will definitely look into that one!
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Date: 2008-10-16 05:55 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-10-16 06:52 am (UTC)& The Audacity of Hope is AMAZING. I read it around my last birthday & when I was done, I KNEW I had to vote for this man. I haven't read Dreams From My Father yet, because my mummy can't find her copy, but I may buy my own in the meantime. It's on my must-read list. :D
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Date: 2008-10-16 08:13 am (UTC)Seriously, I'm so ridiculously invested in this election, if McCain wins, I really will cry.
OBAMA FTW!!!! ;)