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Goodbye, Battlestar Galactica.

Goodbye, Kara Thrace. Goodbye, Lee Adama.

Goodbye Bill Adama, Laura Roslin, Helo and Sharon Agathon, Saul and Ellen Tigh, Gaius Baltar, Caprica, Leoben, Sam Anders, Galen Tyrol.

I'll miss you. :(


What happened to Kara?!?? I suppose more to the point... what WAS Kara?? I'm honestly very sad that Kara and Lee didn't set up and build a cabin and live happily ever after... but he'll never forget her. That's when I started sobbing. :( My beautiful Starbuck, my Kara, my lovely girl. She saved them, she found a new Earth, she was at peace. My beautiful, wonderful girl. I'll never forget you either, Kara.

*sniffles*

Date: 2009-03-21 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maboheme.livejournal.com
I wanted my pilots together at the end too, and I was quite sad to see Kara vanish. Was she a ghost? A mass hallucination? An angel? Did everyone have Kara chips in their heads, lol? But the final scene between Kara and Lee was so moving. Gah, I'm gonna miss them.

Satisfying end, overall.

Date: 2009-03-21 03:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
I'm not sure how I feel about the sort of last Kara/Lee scene was them drunk off their butts and preparing to cheat on Zak. I mean... what? I'm trying to understand why they did that. Were they showing that Kara and Lee were always destined, and they knew that from the very beginning? It wasn't super classy... but when was Kara classy? Hm. I don't know.

I think Kara was something like an angel. Like head!Six and head!Gaius only rendered solid and visible to everyone. I'm not sure. She was definitely the work of whatever Higher Power guided this whole shindig.

I miss them already :( :( And there's not even any room for post-finale fic, except structured as flashbacky or internal monologue! That's maybe what makes me saddest. Sigh.

Date: 2009-03-21 11:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candogirl.livejournal.com
Sorry! I've jumped to your journal because no one on my own flist is discussing BSG. Losers.

I liked that that was the last Kara/Lee scene. I kind of thought it was a clever way to show that there had always been something in their way. That there would always be an obstacle that they could never find a way around. Was it classy? I don't know. As far as we know that was the only time they almost betrayed Zak while he lived. So maybe it was. Maybe it showed how hard it must have been for them all these years to resist that force, to keep their feelings at bay.

I do know that it was incredibly bitter sweet, that it was true to the way that life sometimes works out. Some people you just don't get to love the way you want to. Some people are just denied to us forever.

I also think Kara was an angel or a force for/hand of God. She was there for the whole fleet, but mostly for Lee. She came back to him and for him so that he could live a real life. I said it before, but I'll say it again. She defied her own existence to see him safe. I think that says something amazing about the two of them. I suppose you could also say that it's possible that he willed her into existence because he knew she was his salvation. That he wasn't willing to let her go so he conjured her back into existence in order to save them all. That might be too much of a stretch though.

Anyway, I hope I didn't freak you out by randomly juming from [livejournal.com profile] crediniaeth to here. Sorry if it was out of line!

Date: 2009-03-22 01:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
For someone who's not a Kara/Lee shipper, you're certainly providing an incredibly romantic (if heartbreaking) reading of their entire arc! I really love it, not gonna lie. I appreciate it a lot - you're making it easier to swallow the ending.

I have always felt that Kara and Lee have a really intense love and connection that can't be severed by anything, so I'm happy that their last moments on the show were together. It only feels right. I think Kara also loved Sam but it never felt as world-tremblingly true as Kara and Lee. I know not everyone feels that way, but their relationship always spoke so strongly to me. I'm plenty of a romantic to hope for the sappy ending, but the starcrossed ending is meaningful too. I loved that Lee was the one who saw Kara return, but I never thought more into it than that - I love that you're proposing that either she came back specifically for him, or his need of her made her reappear. I'd argue that that extends to Bill Adama, actually - she's always been so completely wrapped up in the Adama men, and they both needed her, so there she was.

You're not freaking me out at all! It's lovely to talk to someone else about it, I feel like it's kind of passed on with little to no recognition by my flist.

Date: 2009-03-22 04:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candogirl.livejournal.com
First of all, I had some kind of brain glitch with my first sentence. It said that I liked that that was the last Kara/Lee scene. It should have said that I liked that the earlier scene was tucked into the last Kara/Lee scene. I must have been distracted for a moment, sorry.

While I'm not a K/L shipper, I do believe that they loved each other. I think that was one of the central pairings of the show and to deny that they were in love is to be willfully ignorant. I don't know why, but I just wasn't as heavily invested in those two characters as I was some of the others.

I liked Anders well enough, and I believe that Kara loved him, but I don't believe that was her strongest relationship, friendship, or bond. I believe the relationships she had with all three Adamas are the ones that ended up defining her. Anders always felt like a plot point to me, which is pretty much what he turned out to be. In fact, I actually didn't think they had done enough with Kara and Anders to justify her behavior over the past few weeks. It felt to me that the writers were trying to force their relationship into being deeper than it ever actually was. I don't know, Kara and Lee were just always more organic to me.

I agree that the theories extend to Bill as well. I loved her bond with him, I actually found that relationship to be one of the best and most interesting on the show.

I'm glad my journal jump was okay and that my interpretations made sense to you. I was also surprised at how very little my friends have had to say about the finale. I'm hoping they're just digesting it and that the posts will come eventually. Thanks for letting me chat about it here!

Date: 2009-03-22 04:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
I definitely agree that Kara and Lee felt more natural than Kara and Anders. Anders was likeable enough that I didn't hate him for coming between my OTP!!1!1, but their relationship never felt all that powerful either. I read or heard somewhere recently (was it the Last Frakkin Special?) that Anders was brought in pretty much as a way to prevent Kara and Lee from getting together, because once you've done that where do you go? And then he stuck around because he was rather lovely and compelling. But that doesn't change the fact that he was stuck there as a plot point, and then became a different plot point (ie, a cylon) later.

Would you like to perhaps be friends? We don't have loads and loads of interests in common, but you do love Dr Who, and I rather adore that show :D

Date: 2009-03-22 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candogirl.livejournal.com
I missed the special! I'll have to look out for it and see what they say. I never bought that they had always known he was going to be one of the final five. Now I feel vindicated!

:)

I just friended you! I'll warn you though that I'm old and crotchety and obsessed with football (soccer).

I'm back on the DW, but I should also warn you that I was extremely bitter about the ending of last season. It made me irrationally angry at RTD. I'm a bit better now, but I do sometimes have relapses!

Date: 2009-03-22 04:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
Oh my god, SO much of the ending was completely pulled out of Ron Moore's ass. They chose the final four cylons in one meeting, and the decision to end on Earth (as in, our Earth) was made just when he wrote the finale, and I think all of that really shows. I wish they had done more planning ahead, honestly.

Hee, soccer is awesome! I don't watch nearly enough of it but I enjoy it very much.

Aw, I totally understand the bitter. Donna :( :( :( :( But I am enough of a Rose/Ten girl that that made me squeal and flail, though it is a mixed blessing at best. I loved the whole team flying the Tardis though!

Do you mind if I ask where you're from? :) Also, hi, I'm Anne!

Date: 2009-03-22 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candogirl.livejournal.com
I agree that it showed. There was a lot of stuff that just didn't seem well thought out. It was still better than a lot of stuff on tv, but it's a shame they hadn't had a real road map the whole time.

Okay. So I guess I'd be classified as a Rose/Doctor shipper, but I don't get upset at the idea of him with someone else. I did not care for the parting gift the Doctor left with Rose though. I just have issues with RTD's belief that if someone looks like someone else than they can swap in for each other. And I still haven't accepted what happened with Donna. I clearly have issues.

That scene of them all flying the TARDIS was lovely, though. One of the best RTD had ever done.

Also, hi back! I'm Carey and I'm from New York and New Jersey. I also lived in CA for a while but moved back to NYC about a year and a half ago. I work in the entertainment industry, but I'm currently unemployed. Thanks, economy!

How about you?

Date: 2009-03-22 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
Hi Carey! I'm from Connecticut and I've been going to college in Pennsylvania for the past four years, but I'm about to graduate. (So I'm 21!) I've just decided that I'm going to the University of Michigan to get my PhD in Chemical Biology and I'm both terrified and thrilled. I guess the other big thing to know about me is that I studied in Dublin for a year and it is my favorite place on the planet, so I mention it a lot!

Date: 2009-03-23 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] candogirl.livejournal.com
I love Dublin! I haven't been there in ages, but it's one of those cities that I can just imagine myself living quite happily in.

Congratulations on your upcoming graduation! Which school in PA were/are you at? I've heard lovely things about the UoM. Ann Arbor is supposedly a wonderful place to live.

Date: 2009-03-23 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
Aw, yay. Dublin is truly magical in my opinion. :)

Thank you! I'm at Franklin & Marshall in Lancaster, PA. It's pretty much 50/50 chance that you've heard of it. But yeah I'm really excited for UM - I hoped for a bigger city, but I think Ann Arbor will be lovely and a good size for my graduate period.

Date: 2009-03-21 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crediniaeth.livejournal.com
EVERYONE LEAVES LEE. THAT'S NOT COOL.

...that's really all I have to say right now. Need to process a bit more.

Date: 2009-03-21 08:02 pm (UTC)
ext_7299: (BSG: Starbuck)
From: [identity profile] redbrickrose.livejournal.com
They pulled a Cordy, which I figured they would. I'm okay with her exit, I think. I just wish it had, you know, MADE A LITTLE MORE SENSE.

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