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So I was pondering about why, of all my OTPs, Sam and Dean stand head and shoulders above the rest. Especially in light of Croatoan.


What I realized is that there's this undeniable something that all sibling relationships have that others simply don't. Examples? Evidence? Okay!

We already knew this, but after Croatoan it is without a single tiny doubt that Sam and Dean would die for each other, would die without each other, and care more for the other's life than they do for their own. True, complete codependence.

So I started thinking about my CANON OTPs, the one that were IN LOVE, irrefutably, within their universes, and holding them up to this standard.

1) Buffy/Angel. The epic love to end all epic loves. And guess what? They both die! First, Buffy kills Angel, and does she die? Nope. She simply runs away to LA for a summer of angst. Later on, when Angel's back, Buffy dies, and what does Angel do? Runs away to a monastery for a summer of angst. They're in love, sure, but they can each survive without the other.

2) Brian/Justin. Also most irrefutably in love. But I seriously doubt that either of them would die without the other. They might lay down their lives for each other, if it came to that... but I think if one of them died, the other would soldier on. A little broken, sure, but he'd survive.

3) Zoe/Wash. *sniffles* Okay, it's heartbreaking, but Zoe goes on. She lifts her chin and keeps living. She's changed, sure, but she's capable of it.

Okay, I don't have very many canon OTPs, and there are a lot that dance the line but couldn't be said to be irrefutably in love. But on to the next section of my little ramble: siblings!

1) Sam and Dean. See above. Nuff said.

2) Simon and River. River's about to be burned at the stake - what does Simon do? Why, he steps up on that platform, wraps himself around her, and says "Light it." !!!! The prospect of life without his sister is just - impossible for him to face.

3) Connor and Murphy. Murphy is taken out to be shot, and Connor rips a toilet out of the floor and jumps off a five story building to save him. He probably fully expected to die, but if it was saving Murphy it didn't even matter.

GAH! *flings hands in the air* And they wonder why the fangirls have all turned to incest. It's impossible NOT to! Jesus.


*draws eleventy billion hearts*

And now, I have a poll for you all! The absolutely wondrous [livejournal.com profile] wendy bought me a rename token, and I need to make up my mind on how to use it! I have two choices right now. The first is "taivaallinen," which means "heavenly" in Finnish and is just something I found while poking around dictionaries and such. I think it's an absolutely gorgeous word. The other is "exsequor," which is Latin for "to follow to the grave," and basically after Croatoan (see everything I just rambled about!) it feels ridiculously appropriate for Sam and Dean, and I kinda vaguely want my name to be a tribute to them.

So! Help me decide!

[Poll #885925]

Date: 2006-12-10 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] immoralilly.livejournal.com
tailvaalinen just sounds so beautiful, but it is more difficult to type. So hmm. I think I'd still go for that one, though.

Also, that scene when Connor JUMPS OFF THE ROOF is one of my favourites ever. He just - leaps, no hesitation, no fear. Awesome.

Date: 2006-12-10 08:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vaeltaa.livejournal.com
I like taivaallinen, it's a really beautiful word in a beautiful language (my username is Finnish too). :D

Date: 2006-12-10 08:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] weasleytook.livejournal.com
I picked the second one because I'd never be able to spell the first. LOL.

Date: 2006-12-10 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
As a Finn, I really do have to go with taivaallinen. And if you go with that, let me know if you want to find out how to say the word (if the dictionary you used didn't let you know already).

Also, you're making me want to dig out my dvds so much, just so I could watch some Firefly. Oh Simon and River.

Date: 2006-12-10 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
Ooh, actually, could you tell me how to say it now? I've been saying it in my head essentially phonetically, with the first part sounding like "tie", but that's probably very wrong. I'm curious!

TAMS!! *hearts forever*

Date: 2006-12-10 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
I'm bound to screw this up. I thought I could find a dictionary that would say the words, but my skillz of google fail me. Finnish is, aside for a few exceptions, a completely phonetic language, so the first part DOES sound like "tie".

Basically, it's a four-syllable word, with the stress on the first syllable, and so it goes a bit like this: TIE-vah-l-lee-nen.

Date: 2006-12-10 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
Ahh, okay! I was putting the stress on the second syllable, and pronouncing the i like in "sit". Thank you for the clarification!

Date: 2006-12-10 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
Um. You're actually right.

<-- sucks

The i is like the one in 'sit', short. I was being more concerned about all the consonants so I go and screw with the vowels. Also, I'd like to add to the last syllable that you should say it like you would 'pen'. Except with an n.

Date: 2006-12-10 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
Oh, hee. Okay. But the stress is still on the first syllable yes?

Date: 2006-12-10 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cosmic.livejournal.com
The stress is always on the first syllable in Finnish, even though the way we say everything is somewhat monotonic.

Date: 2006-12-10 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wendy.livejournal.com
I really like both those names...think about which will still be meaningful to you in a year, two years, etc.

You choose...don't make ME! :)

Date: 2006-12-10 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torturedwriter7.livejournal.com
Can I just say I lol'ed out loud at your icon? It fucking rocks. XD

Date: 2006-12-10 08:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torturedwriter7.livejournal.com
I like the second one, personally. Latin fuckin' pwns all of us. That, and though it has very strong ties to SPN, it isn't married to it. Could be about a part of your life or something.

However, it's your decision. Keep us on the up 'n' up.

Date: 2006-12-10 08:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyra-wing.livejournal.com
With the sort of SPN-loving flist you've got, there's really going to be no contest. :D

Date: 2006-12-10 08:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] exsequar.livejournal.com
*laughs* That's an excellent point. Oops?

Date: 2006-12-10 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notthequiettype.livejournal.com
Wordy McWord. I know part of that is just the love of families (I mean, god knows I'd die for my sister or my parents) but there is something about all three of them that is just SO. MUCH. MORE. And people wonder how we all get so enamoured of it?

Date: 2006-12-10 09:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quietdiscerning.livejournal.com
HEY. whyd you go an DELETE the one i already commented to. HMPH.

:P

Date: 2006-12-11 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] expastic.livejournal.com
Word.

times like, 9383612050

Date: 2006-12-11 06:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] benvolio-daemon.livejournal.com
OH. OH. Supernatural, QAF, Firefly, Boondock Saints...*hearts them and their respective OTPs hardcore*

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